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Archives for March 2022

Susan Guthrie Featured on the Evolving with the Times Podcast!

March 16, 2022 By Susan Guthrie

Learn more about Susan Guthrie’s backstory in this newly released interview with talk show host, Ronnie Deaver, of the Evolving with the Times (Family Lawyer Edition) Podcast!

In this episode, Susan and Ronnie dive deep into Susan’s early career, industry trends she’s keeping track of, and her reflections from lessons learned throughout her career.

Listen to the Episode!

Filed Under: In The News

Forrest “Woody” Mosten Featured in New Memoir from Cary Lerman

March 11, 2022 By Susan Guthrie

Distinguished Attorney Cary Lerman released his memoir in February, to critical acclaim. Of No Eccentric Whim: A Memoir About California Dreamin’ is an exquisitely written, coming of age memoir by noted lawyer Cary Lerman takes the reader back to a seemingly more innocent time during the 1950’s and 1960’s, when choices appeared clearer and dreams more attainable. Growing up in Albany Park, Chicago, on a diet of supportive, working-class family and the allure of moving to the Golden State, this memoir explores larger themes we grapple with each day-the accuracy of memory and the role of fate. Cary shared some memories of his time with Woody in the book which you can read here.

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Filed Under: In The News

Susan Reviews Bill Eddy’s “Mediating High Conflict Matters” for the NYDRL Magazine

March 11, 2022 By Susan Guthrie

Mosten Guthrie’s own Susan Guthrie was absolutely thrilled when friend and colleague, Laura Kaster asked her to provide a review of Bill Eddy’s ground-breaking new book, “Mediating High Conflict Disputes,” co-authored with Michael Lomax, for the New York Dispute Resolution Lawyer Magazine. The issue just came out and it is an honor to be on the pages of this edition!

Read the article here: https://lnkd.in/d7-wGivg

We are excited to say that Bill will again be offering his wonderful New Ways for Mediators® High Conflict Training based upon this book for Mosten Guthrie Academy in November. This is a training that will change the way you manage your dispute resolution and high conflict cases and is a game-changer for professionals from all fields!

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The Power of Visual Aids When Working with Divorcing Couples

March 9, 2022 By Susan Guthrie

“I’m a visual thinker, not a language-based thinker. My brain likes Google Images.”

– Temple Grandin

Communication is a fundamental skill for all living beings and is a key to surviving and thriving in this complicated world.  Broken down to its basic components, communication is not just the giving of information, but also the receiving of that information.  Therefore, for communication to be most effective, it is given in a format where it is best received, understood, and retained.  We have a variety of methods as humans that we use to communicate that are associated with our 5 senses.  We communicate predominantly through what we see and hear, however.  One of the most important tools for effective communication is the use of visual aids and this can be especially true when working with divorcing couples.

As divorce professionals, we understand our clients are generally operating under a fair amount of stress and emotional strain.  This can considerably complicate the divorce process which often involves complicated conversations and decision making as a couple negotiates their agreement.  Therefore, it is vitally important that when professionals are communicating with their clients or facilitating a conversation between the couple as a mediator would, that the professional both communicate effectively and promote effective communication on the part of the client(s).  One tool that a professional can utilize to assist in this process is the use of visual aids.

A well-known study conducted by Albert Mehrabian[1] identified what is commonly referred to as the “uneven triad of communication” which concluded that effective verbal communication is a combination of various factors other than words such as facial expressions, body language and more.  In fact, the study concluded that only 7% of communication is the actual words used.

The Uneven Triad of Communication

Key takeaways from Mehrabian’s studies are:

·      It’s not just words: a lot of communication comes through non-verbal communication.
·      Without seeing and hearing non-verbals, it is easier to misunderstand the words.
·      When we are unsure about what the words mean, we pay more attention to the non-verbals.

Applying these takeaways to a typical discussion of divorce issues we can posit that the use of visuals in these discussions would be particularly helpful.  Consider that our participants are often under stress and are emotionally flooded during these conversations, which are often centered on the triggering topics of their money and children.  We know that misunderstandings are common, comprehension may be difficult or delayed and concentration is often limited.  Think of a settlement conference or mediation session that you have participated in where the couple’s discussion goes down a rabbit hole on an unrelated topic or where they become derailed by emotion.  Verbal communication alone in these situations is often inadequate to keep the conversation flowing and productive.

This is where the implementation of some simple visual aids can be of assistance in a variety of ways:

  1. Visual aids can help to facilitate the conversation as solutions and options are developed
  2. Visual aids can assist with comprehension and retention of the issues and offers being discussed
  3. Visual aids can be used to redirect and focus the participants to a task at hand when the conversation strays into the emotional or unproductive.

Using Visual Aids to Facilitate the Conversation

As every divorce professional is aware, a divorce settlement is much more a puzzle with many pieces to be fit together than it is a linear and clear progression of one issue to be resolved and then on to another.  This means that the many moving pieces of the conversation are often difficult to keep track of.   The common practice of note-taking on a yellow pad does not lend itself to sharing with all participants and providing a constant reference point for all involved.

Consider instead, the power of using a large whiteboard and markers or even better, a Google Jamboard, to take notes and to keep track of topics, facts, offers and agreements.  The Jamboard has a wonderful feature that allows you to move the notes around like sticky notes and to change their color as needed.  For example, issues can be blue, facts are yellow, proposals are pink and agreements are orange.

Here is a sample of a Jamboard being used in a discussion of the disposition of the marital residence:

Sample Google Jamboard in a in a divorce negotiation

The use of the visual here allows all participants to keep track of the issues being discussed and permits a deeper understanding and retention of all options, offers and agreements.  Each person in the room, or on the virtual conference through screen share, has the ability to view the information and to quickly summarize where the conversation lies.  Color and pictures can be added in order to provide visual cues to the conversation.

Using Visual Aids to Assist with Comprehension and Retention

We all have limits to how long we can concentrate and when you add in the strain of a divorce negotiation over any length of time, it is not surprising that participants can fatigue quickly.  The more fatigued, the less capable the parties are to continue a productive meeting and conversation.  Using visual aids in these situations allows people to concentrate for a longer period of time as the visual, combined with the audible, engages the mind and reinforces the communication.  Consider a divorce negotiation where as above, the issue under consideration is the disposition of the home.  Remember a time when you discussed this with a client or clients with just a verbal conversation.  Now consider how much more effective it might be, with the Jamboard shown above.  As the conversation continues and more notes are added to the board, your client will be able to review and retain a great deal more information and stay engaged in the discussion for a longer period of time with the board to guide them.

Using Visual Aids to Redirect or Focus the Parties

It would be hard to find a divorce professional who has not been in a discussion with a client or clients who have not veered off the path of a productive conversation by an emotional rehash of the past or a tirade of anger or hurt.  Consider our discussion of the disposition of the marital property.  Think back to a time when you were trying to explore options with your client and they went off track into an emotional spiral of fear or anger about the possibility that they might not be able to continue to live there.  It can be hard to verbally break into that emotional space but a gentle redirect with the Jamboard allows the attention to immediate become focused on the content before their eyes.  A verbal prompt combined with a reference to the board is even more effective in recentering the conversation back to the topic at hand.

Another example might be the heated discussion between two parents about their parenting time with their children.  It can be easy for them to become distracted by the “fairness” of the time share and the percentage of time each may have with their children.  This may be less than productive but the simple placement of a picture of their children on the table or shared on the screen can have an immediate impact and bring the needs of their children front and center.

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I recently heard about a wonderful visual tool that another mediator uses in her parenting mediations.  She has a baby doll that she puts on the table between the couple as they discuss their plan.  She tells them that when they stop focusing on their children and their children’s needs, she will remove the doll and put it under the table.  This might happen several times during a heated session with particularly heated couples and some take quite awhile to realize that the doll had disappeared but each time they do, it brings them back into parent mode and a more fruitful conversation ensues.

Using a baby doll as a visual aid in a mediation

Visual aids come in many forms, some high tech and some rather low tech, but they all can be effective tools for divorce professionals when working with their clients.  Whether you are in the room across a conference table, or beaming in remotely via Zoom, there are a myriad ways we can incorporate visuals into our practice, a few of which are shared here in this article.  The bottom line is that no one form of communication is 100% effective all of the time and often by combining the audible with the visual we can enhance our client experience and thereby their outcome.  Visual aids are just one more tool in the toolbox of a divorce professional.

Susan Guthrie has been one of the leading family law attorneys and mediators in the country for more than 30 years and a world-wide expert in online mediation and she has trained over 20,000 professionals in the ethical and practical considerations in transitioning to a virtual practice.  In late 2020, Susan and legal legend, Forrest “Woody” Mosten partnered together to found the Mosten Guthrie Academy to provide top of the line training for mediators and collaborative professionals in a virtual format world-wide.  Susan trains several times a year on the topics of mediation, collaborative law, online mediation, marketing and more through the Academy.


[1] Albert Mehrabian

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Authentic Empowerment as a Means to Practice Building

March 2, 2022 By Patrick Kalscheur

As a participant in one of the Mosten Guthrie Mediation Practice Building groups, I have reflected over the past year on my values in growing my peacemaking practice. Forrest (Woody) Mosten is the facilitator of this group, and I have learned an immense amount from him and the other participants. If you’ve attended any trainings with Woody, then you may understand when I say my learning was not from Woody teaching or telling me how to best build my practice. No, in his most effective way, he has guided us through a self-exploration of what matters to us, what type of practices we want to have, and how we might go about continuing the development of our practices.

            When I perform this self-exploration, I first realize that I cannot separate my work as a peacemaker from my intentions for why I do this work. For me, I come into the room with the intention to hold a healing space for the parties and the professionals in the room, including for myself. I then let this core intention guide me as I answer some fundamental questions. How can I best learn to create a healing space? What do I need to do to come into this space most effectively? How do I build a practice that reflects my intention?

I find the words of Gary Zukav in his books “The Seat of the Soul” and “Universal Human” helpful in answering these questions. Zukav says that when your personality merges with your soul, you create authentic power. When we are in a space of authentic power, there is no split between aspects of our personality—our stories, our wounds, our fear-based feelings—and our souls. We are centered, we are whole, we are in a space of love. I suggest, creating authentic power creates a healing space to navigate family conflicts. We become a mirror for that we hope to create in the room.

Creating authentic power is a deeply personal journey because it requires emotional awareness and understanding of those fearful aspects of our personalities. This is our personal healing work. Zukav teaches that we must first recognize when the fearful aspects of our personalities are activated. And if we can then access the highest loving aspects of our beings during these moments of activation, we are doing the healing that creates authentic power.

For me to create authentic power, I need time to heal outside of the peacemaking room. I also need time to balance the various aspects of my life that are dearly important to me: I need time with my family and friends; I need time in nature; I need time in contemplation; I need time to travel; I need time to exercise; I need time to rest; I need time to cook; I need time to eat delicious food. These activities facilitate and teach me how to access the loving aspects of my being, which I can draw upon when a fearful aspect of my personality is activated. Balancing my time in this way, therefore, helps me meet my intention for how I want to come into this work, and how I want to build my practice. Over time, I have found that if about 1/3 of my day is spent working, 1/3 of my day is spent on self-care, and 1/3 is spent with family and other loved ones, then I am in balance.

For new mediators coming out of a 40-hour basic training, I think there can often be a feeling of overwhelm as they contemplate what to do next and how to build their practices.  We can see the models of advanced mediators with busy, robust practices like Woody, Susan Guthrie, and Ken Neumann amongst many others. If new mediators trained with Woody, they may have heard how he spends a minimum of 80 hours each month (or 1,000 annually) on practice development activities like attending trainings, networking, attending conferences, reading, writing, volunteering, and not in the client service room (see the below chart from Woody’s 1997 ABA book).  Here is Woody’s recap of his practice building time during the calendar year of 1994 as published in his book, Complete Guide to Mediation (1997).

I agree with Woody of the invaluable nature of these activities, and I also understand that one might feel even more overwhelmed contemplating spending this many hours on practice development. But what if “practice development” were reframed to activities that create authentic power for you? How much time do you want to spend on aligning your personality with your soul?

In “Seat of the Soul”, Zukav describes what work looks like for an authentically empowered practice as follows: “When the deepest part of you becomes engaged in what you are doing, when your activities and actions become gratifying and purposeful, when what you do serves both yourself and others, when you do not tire within but seek the sweet satisfaction of your life and your work, you are doing what you were meant to be doing. The personality that is engaged in the work of the soul is buoyant. It is not burdened with negativity. It does not fear. It experiences purposefulness and meaning. It delights in its work and in others. It is fulfilled and fulfilling.” How much time would you spend to achieve such a space? How does one navigate from a basic training to an authentically empowered practice?

Let me offer three ideas. First, spend some time getting very clear about your intention for why you come to this work. This may take some time journaling, meditating upon, discussing with others. Once you have clarity on your intention, when presented with an opportunity or challenge in developing your practice, ask yourself how that opportunity or challenge aligns with your intention. Or said another way, what is your intention by taking that opportunity or facing that challenge? Does it serve your core practice intention?

The second idea came while writing this blog. I went back to my journal from when I was first developing my peacemaking practice, and I found an exercise that I performed. I asked myself to identify an ideal day in the life I most wanted to live. You can see the chart that I developed below. By visualizing a day in your ideal life, you can bring forth those aspects of your being that create love for you in your life. You can prioritize that which is most important to you, and structure your practice and the time you will spend on developing your practice into your own life.

Patrick Kalscheur, Visualizing an Ideal Day in the Preferred Lifestyle

  • Early Morning Practices (5:30-7:00 am): meditation, yoga, reading, journaling.
  • Morning Family Prep (7:00-8:30 am): be with boys, help prepare them for school, make family breakfast, etc.
  • Time in Nature (8:30-10:00 am): hike, bike, walk the dog, etc. Take time to feel fresh air and prepare for the day.
  • Billable Work (10:00 am – 12:00 pm): mediation, collaborative cases, etc.
  • Lunch/Nature/Shop (12:00-2:00 pm): eat lunch, take a walk, hike, bike ride, etc. or go grocery shopping as necessary.
  • Work (2:00-5:00 pm): some of this billable, some time spent exploring new avenues for practice growth, idea generation.
  • Family/Cook/Nature (5:00-8:30 pm): cook dinner, eat with family, take a family walk or bike ride, read, enjoy a fire or other family activity.
  • Easy work/wind down (8:30-10:00 pm): read articles or other inspiring materials, spend time with Anviksha (my wife).
  • Evening meditation (10:00-10:30 pm): relaxation and release of the day in preparation for sleep.
  • Sleep (10:30 pm – 5:30 am): sleep and dream.

The third idea flows from the second. Get clear on your budget and your financial needs. How much money do you need to support that ideal life you want to live? The answer to this question may mean there is more or less time available to you for the other activities. This activity can also help you price your work. How valuable is your time? How much would you need to charge for each hour if you only wanted to work a set number of hours each day?

There is not one peacemaking path. I encourage you to explore your own path and to find those activities that will create an authentically empowered practice for you. In turn, we can create more peace in ourselves and be a mirror for the families we are hired to assist.              

Patrick Kalscheur is a mediator, collaborative attorney, and peacemaker. Patrick works with families going through the transition of divorce, and he is the founder of Kalscheur Conscious Family Law, LLC in Chicago, IL. Patrick enjoys incorporating consciousness practices such as meditation and visualization exercises when working with clients and other peace-making professionals. Patrick is member of the Mosten Guthrie Academy Trainer Development Program, and he looks forward to facilitating trainings with other Mosten Guthrie Academy trainers and the wonderful participants that come to the trainings. Patrick enjoys spending time with his family (wife and two boys), traveling, reading, and exploring new experiences. He can be reached at 312-767-8179, patrick@chicagoconsciouslaw.com, and you can learn more here: https://www.chicagoconsciouslaw.com/ and on LinkedIn.

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